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or soul (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg.53). This means that the pregnant person causes the baby, or new born idea if the birth resulted from the soul, to be beautiful because all new borns are beautiful and this is as close as a mortal may get to immortality. By producing offspring, the human being continues life forever. By this, we see what it is that love wants as well. And that is reproduction and birth in beauty (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 53) to continue the love, and retain possessions that have been acquired through the good. Diotima had briefly referred to aspects in her story that closely resembled the account of Aristophanes. Aristophanes also gave a vivid account that had brought up arguments that were very interesting. They were somewhat different from Diotima’s, but

nonetheless, they were good. Aristophanes believed in human nature. No one else had spoke of this. To Aristophanes, there were three kinds of human beings. To the others, there were only two kinds (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 25) Aristophanes described the way humans were. They were completely round, spherical, had four hands and four legs, two faces and two sets of reproductive organs. The three kinds were male and male; female and female; and a special kind of mix of male and female (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 25) These being presumable were too out of control. The gods needed to contain them in order to be served by them. So Zeus had split each human into two halves, making two distinct people (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 26) Now, each person had a feeling that they were

incomplete. They longed for their other half. This is their source, and now ours, for desire to love. They spent their lives searching for that other person to complete the circle. Hence, love is born into every human being to go find their other half, this is our nature (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 27). This idea helps Aristophanes describe the male/female love, because to him, it is of the lowest type of love. But for modern society, it helps describe the male/male and female/female love. This idea makes sense to the members of the party. It truly explains why men would love women, and not just keep them to procreate. When the two halves find each other, it is said that something miraculous happens. They fall in love, and never wish to be separated again. It is almost like they

become a single person again. Those men that were split from another man, according to Aristophanes, are the most manly in their nature (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 27). He says that he can prove it because those are the boys that are politicians (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 28) However, this part of Aristophanes argument has no real proff behind it. There is no way of measuring human nature, and so, there is no way of telling which type of human being each boy descended from, whether it be a male to male relationship, or a male to female relationship. This problem in Aristophanes argument brings about another oversight. He claims these men have no interest in marriage and reproduction (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 28) This however, would go against what is good. It is good to

produce offspring, we see this in Diotima’s account, but for Aristophanes, this does not seem to be a case of good or bad. Aristophanes definition of Love is that it is the name we give for our pursuit of wholeness with our other halves. It is our desire to be complete (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 29). This is a very accurate statement, in light of what Aristophanes is arguing for. This is very much different, however, then the characteristics Agathon gives to Love. Agathon does not think that there is a single idea for love, but that it encompasses many related characteristics. As Agathon first speaks, he wishes to celebrate the gods, not congratulate mankind as his predecessors have done (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 32) Agathon states that Love, is the youngest of all the

gods. To defend this, he claims that Love is always within young people and is one of them. Therefore, he stays young forever. The proof here is that the violent deeds done in the past were before Love was created, and taken his throne of king of the gods (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 33). Love’s character was noble and moral. He contained four virtuous characteristics: justice, moderation, bravery and wisdom (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 34). In justice, Love could not be harmed by violence, and this was further proof of his age and his position as king of the gods. Love was moderate in that he took power over pleasure. By this, Love had power over pleasure, because the greatest of all pleasure was love (Nehamas & Woodruff, pg. 35). In other words, Love was a fitting king,